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Aww, Jeremy's sad.
The UK Government doesn’t supply arms directly to Israel but does approve the licences for private companies to export weapons - therefore, neither Starmer nor Sunak are likely to admit that Israel is committing war crimes as that would self-criminate the UK in the eyes of the ICJ - it is illegal to export weapons to countries or states, where there is evidence it enables them to commit war crimes.OK, I may continue to "bash" Starmer then. More wanting him to be held to account on his position and hypocrisy I would say.
This I agree entirely.The UK Government doesn’t supply arms directly to Israel but does approve the licences for private companies to export weapons - therefore, neither Starmer nor Sunak are likely to admit that Israel is committing war crimes as that would self-criminate the UK in the eyes of the ICJ - it is illegal to export weapons to countries or states, where there is evidence it enables them to commit war crimes.
Same issue for Biden and the US.
As I posted a few days ago - that’s not in dispute but your whole argument has been in trying to get Starmer to admit it and call him out for hypocrisy (as per the X tweet you posted above)This I agree entirely.
There also is evidence of a Genocide and other war crimes.
....Well it is (or was) Starmer who's the Human Rights lawyer.As I posted a few days ago - that’s not in dispute but your whole argument has been in trying to get Starmer to admit it and call him out for hypocrisy (as per the X tweet you posted above)
....Well it is (or was) Starmer who's the Human Rights lawyer.
Anyways, I'll leave you to it I really don't think there's much chance of me getting Starmer to admit to anything
It certainly doesn't seem to have been their number 1 priority for a long time.So despite all the talk, Israel’s Government isn’t actually all that bothered about getting the hostages back then?
It’s a deal that was brokered by Qatar and Egypt who have been mediating these proposals from the start with US input - Both Israel and Hamas have been bouncing them back with conditions of their own. Hamas’s main condition has been to end the fighting/for IDF to withdraw from Gaza. Israel on the other hand, has had no intention of agreeing to any ceasefire that required they withdraw troops from Gaza. More recently, both Hamas, Qatar and Egypt (and I think the States) were using stopping a ground invasion on Rafah as a condition but again, Israel has all along said, regardless of any ceasefire, the ground invasion of Rafah would go ahead (in the face of international condemnation and concern for the million Gazan refuges still sheltering there having been evacuated from other parts of Gaza).I'm confused about this 'deal'.
It's not a deal is it ? It's a proposal.
Who proposed the 'deal' which Hamas seems to have accepted ?
No, the main and overriding agenda was always to ‘destroy’ Hamas - it’s just taken Israelis a while to realise Netanyahu had no intention of negotiating their release unless he could continue with his bombardment of Gaza - Hamas has cottoned on to the fact that even if they release the hostages, Israel will not negotiate a permanent ceasefire.So despite all the talk, Israel’s Government isn’t actually all that bothered about getting the hostages back then?
Netenyahu and his Cabinet reject ceasefire proposal
Hamas have rejected every ceasefire for months. Israel say no to one & there're "not all that bothered about getting the hostages back"So despite all the talk, Israel’s Government isn’t actually all that bothered about getting the hostages back then?
There's nothing "weird" about the statement at all. Israel has always relied on Hamas rejecting any deal for a ceasefire that suits Israel's wants. Even now Netanyahu is too stupid to realise that :Hamas have rejected every ceasefire for months. Israel say no to one & there're "not all that bothered about getting the hostages back"
Weird
So, Hamas rejecting every ceasefire for months deemed not worthy of comment. Israel rejecting just one is stupid.There's nothing "weird" about the statement at all. Israel has always relied on Hamas rejecting any deal for a ceasefire that suits Israel's wants. Even now Netanyahu is too stupid to realise that :
a. The only chance of getting the remaining living hostages back alive is to agree a ceasefire
b. Every child that has lost a parent or sibling is now more likely to become the next generation Hamas fighter. Israel can't destroy Hamas and everything they are currently doing is just breeding hatred and further insecurity for Israel. Then, of course, Netanyahu has never been known as a very intelligent politician.
In the cold light of day Hamas holds the hostages (it's why they took them - as a bargaining chip) - Israel has two choices :So, Hamas rejecting every ceasefire for months deemed not worthy of comment. Israel rejecting just one is stupid.
Still weird
So where is the motivation for Hamas not to keep repeating Oct 7th? As they've promised to doIn the cold light of day Hamas holds the hostages (it's why they took them - as a bargaining chip) - Israel has two choices :
1. Agree a ceasefire and get the hostages back
2. Continue the war and probably see the remaining hostages killed.
If it were my family that had someone held by Hamas I'd most definitely be going for option one.
Hamas rejecting a ceasefire puts themselves in no worse situation than if they accepted it. The innocent people of Israel and Gaza murdered by both sides are those that suffer - not the combatants.
There is none obviously ( maybe the promise of a two state solution might be an incentive ! ). Yet Hamas have just stated around this agreement "A senior Palestinian official familiar with the proposal told the BBC that Hamas had agreed to end "hostile activity forever" if the conditions were met.".So where is the motivation for Hamas not to keep repeating Oct 7th? As they've promised to do