[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[WATFORD zero]

Just watched Baroness Warsi on the news in 'Tory peer speaks sense again shocker'

Tories see Muslims as ‘fair game’ says Baroness Warsi​

Baroness Warsi said the Tories’ response to comments by Lee Anderson showed that “anti-Muslim racism is tolerated” by the party.
She criticised as “mealy mouthed” deputy prime minister Oliver Dowden’s defence of the party’s handling of the incident.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-lee-anderson-islamist-comments-resign-labour-sgddwrgtt

It's actually refreshing to see that somewhere behind this ruling cabal, there are actually a few sensible conservatives, even if they are all from another generation of conservatism completely

 

[aolstudios]

Just watched Baroness Warsi on the news in 'Tory peer speaks sense again shocker'

Tories see Muslims as ‘fair game’ says Baroness Warsi​

Baroness Warsi said the Tories’ response to comments by Lee Anderson showed that “anti-Muslim racism is tolerated” by the party.
She criticised as “mealy mouthed” deputy prime minister Oliver Dowden’s defence of the party’s handling of the incident.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-lee-anderson-islamist-comments-resign-labour-sgddwrgtt

It's actually refreshing to see that somewhere behind this ruling cabal, there are actually a few sensible conservatives, even if they are all from another generation of conservatism completely

Sensible *on this subject*

 

[WATFORD zero]

Sensible *on this subject*

She is a member of the Conservative party so I would be surprised if her views matched yours on lots of things, but I believe she speaks a lot of sense (as do some honest politicians from all sides of the spectrum).

To make it absolutely clear, it's this current cabal who have taken over the Conservative party that I completely agree with @The Clamp, should be ploughed into a ditch

 

[BBassic]

This is good no?

I fail to see any downside to trying to clean up AI use.

Plenty to dig out the government on, getting this sorted isn't one

Definitely.

Call me cynical but there's no universe in which they don't try and claim some sort of AI influence over a GE they just lost.

But as you say - it's a dangerous emerging technology that needs controls

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Definitely.

Call me cynical but there's no universe in which they don't try and claim some sort of AI influence over a GE they just lost.

But as you say - it's a dangerous emerging technology that needs controls

To be honest, we have the previous x amount of years being told the election here, USA and Brexit was fiddled by Russians.
Just a new thing to blame for a defeat

 

[WATFORD zero]

To be honest, we have the previous x amount of years being told the election here, USA and Brexit was fiddled by Russians.
Just a new thing to blame for a defeat

It would be lovely to think there was someone else to blame and it wasn't just our own blatant stupidity, but I'm not convinced

 

[Machiavelli]

Just watched Baroness Warsi on the news in 'Tory peer speaks sense again shocker'

Tories see Muslims as ‘fair game’ says Baroness Warsi​

Baroness Warsi said the Tories’ response to comments by Lee Anderson showed that “anti-Muslim racism is tolerated” by the party.
She criticised as “mealy mouthed” deputy prime minister Oliver Dowden’s defence of the party’s handling of the incident.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-lee-anderson-islamist-comments-resign-labour-sgddwrgtt

It's actually refreshing to see that somewhere behind this ruling cabal, there are actually a few sensible conservatives, even if they are all from another generation of conservatism completely

As I suspect you're well aware, she's been banging this particular drum for about a decade now. Because Islamophobia in the Conservative Party, and in wider UK society is alive and well. And yet we hear so little about it. It's hiding in plain sight, while all the noise is generated elsewhere.

 

[TomandJerry]

Grassroots Conservative supporters have called Rishi Sunak a “snake” over Lee Anderson’s suspension as MPs on the Tory right said he should be given a route back in.

In leaked WhatsApp messages obtained by the Guardian, members of the Conservative Democratic Organisation (CDO), which was founded by disgruntled Tories after Boris Johnson and then Liz Truss were ousted, attacked the prime minister for kicking Anderson out of the parliamentary party.


Several of the activists endorsed Anderson’s comments and some went further in decrying “the threat of Islam”.

 

[BBassic]

Grassroots Conservative supporters have called Rishi Sunak a “snake” over Lee Anderson’s suspension as MPs on the Tory right said he should be given a route back in.

In leaked WhatsApp messages obtained by the Guardian, members of the Conservative Democratic Organisation (CDO), which was founded by disgruntled Tories after Boris Johnson and then Liz Truss were ousted, attacked the prime minister for kicking Anderson out of the parliamentary party.


Several of the activists endorsed Anderson’s comments and some went further in decrying “the threat of Islam”.

The lunatics have taken over the asylum, burnt it down, pissed on the embers and then blamed the Muslamic Fundamentalismists for the fire.

 

[clapham_gull]

The lunatics have taken over the asylum, burnt it down, pissed on the embers and then blamed the Muslamic Fundamentalismists for the fire.

It's really a measure of where the party has gone.

Without stereotyping Muslims (that's clearly now the job of the Conservatives) you'd have thought a small c conservative religious community with a strong sense of the family would naturally find their home with the party.

Not that I'm a Royalist (read previous posts) but if they took a bit more of a Prince Charles approach they'd have the whole thing wrapped up.

Morons.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Grassroots Conservative supporters have called Rishi Sunak a “snake” over Lee Anderson’s suspension as MPs on the Tory right said he should be given a route back in.

In leaked WhatsApp messages obtained by the Guardian, members of the Conservative Democratic Organisation (CDO), which was founded by disgruntled Tories after Boris Johnson and then Liz Truss were ousted, attacked the prime minister for kicking Anderson out of the parliamentary party.


Several of the activists endorsed Anderson’s comments and some went further in decrying “the threat of Islam”.

Sunak may be a follower but on this occasion he has followed the right path.

 

[nicko31]

Think 30pLeenock knows he toast when the GE comes, his political career is all but over.

This dog whistle BS is just trying to firm up hit position at Gebeebies and get a payrise.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It's really a measure of where the party has gone.

Without stereotyping Muslims (that's clearly now the job of the Conservatives) you'd have thought a small c conservative religious community with a strong sense of the family would naturally find their home with the party.

Not that I'm a Royalist (read previous posts) but if they took a bit more of a Prince Charles approach they'd have the whole thing wrapped up.

Morons.

The defender of all faiths?

I'm not sure they need defending.

Protected by law to prattle on, providing they don't defame other faiths. Tick.

Required to pay taxes. They ain't charities. They are businesses. Tick.

And kept out of decision making. f*** off out of the House of Lords. You have no right in there. Tick.

Defended.

 

[Randy McNob]

i'm surprised the Resolution Foundation knows the budget ahead of time. that said, what do we want then: spending cuts, more taxes increases, more borrowing?

Send a few refugees to Rwanda - that should solve the issue

 

[drew]

Think 30pLeenock knows he toast when the GE comes, his political career is all but over.

This dog whistle BS is just trying to firm up hit position at Gebeebies and get a payrise.

Which is why he is deliberately aligning himself with Reform and their 'ilk'.

 

[TomandJerry]

Jeremy Hunt’s financial planning is “dubious” and “lacks credibility” and the chancellor should not announce tax cuts in next week’s budget if he cannot lay out how he will fund them, an economic thinktank has said.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies (IFS) calculates that Hunt would need to find £35bn of cuts from already threadbare public services if he plans to use a Whitehall spending freeze to pay for pre-election giveaways.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Send a few refugees to Rwanda - that should solve the issue

If they can find an airline who’ll take them.

Airlines 'refusing to provide planes for Rwanda plan over reputation fears'

The unwillingness of commercial airlines to take part in the scheme means the RAF may have to step in.

metro.co.uk

 

[abc]

If they can find an airline who’ll take them.

Airlines 'refusing to provide planes for Rwanda plan over reputation fears'

The unwillingness of commercial airlines to take part in the scheme means the RAF may have to step in.

metro.co.uk

Air Rwanda?

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

Just watched Baroness Warsi on the news in 'Tory peer speaks sense again shocker'

Tories see Muslims as ‘fair game’ says Baroness Warsi​

Baroness Warsi said the Tories’ response to comments by Lee Anderson showed that “anti-Muslim racism is tolerated” by the party.
She criticised as “mealy mouthed” deputy prime minister Oliver Dowden’s defence of the party’s handling of the incident.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-mp-lee-anderson-islamist-comments-resign-labour-sgddwrgtt

It's actually refreshing to see that somewhere behind this ruling cabal, there are actually a few sensible conservatives, even if they are all from another generation of conservatism completely

Tobias Elwood on Peston last night said that Lee Anderson is explicitly racist, while the Transport Secretary Mark Harper just persisted in saying he was “wrong”.
it seems clear that the word from Conservative Central Office is that he was “wrong” rather than racist. Pathetic.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Air Rwanda?

I must say I do smirk whenever I see the Arse playing at home on the telly.

Visit Rwanda.

Come and see how your terrorists are doing.

Mate.