[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Is it PotG?]

But…but…but…they have a piece of paper which says it definitely, definitely is safe! And no British politician who returns from abroad with a piece of paper and a commitment to something has ever been proven wrong before.

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Sir Starmer has the whole thing covered, next year can't come quickly enough.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Mark François (the uber kynt) has the Government over his knee again.

I almost want the Government to succeed in fighting this horrid turd off along with his Gammony Thickets, but hey, the Tories believe that gaslighting the nation on stopping the boats of the 30k of the 700k net immigrants will be popular. They will find out next year that this will be the last of their existential mistakes.

So I hope François and his idiots give Sunak a bloody nose. A shambles of a Government but next time the Country will not vote in someone to ‘get it done’. They’ll vote in someone to get the Tories done…….the kynts.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

They are my human rights too. Oh yes, the Tories promise a British version of them, but who trusts the Tories?

 

[TomandJerry]

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Parliament’s joint committee on human rights, which is cross-party and chaired by Labour’s Harriet Harman, has published its own briefing on the human rights concerns raised by the Rwanda bill.

The bill would require all domestic courts to accept that Rwanda is safe and not to consider any review or appeal brought on the grounds that it is not – even if there is compelling evidence in support. This raises difficult constitutional questions about the separation of powers and the rule of law. It would prevent the courts considering arguable claims that removal to Rwanda is unsafe, which would expose individuals to a risk of their fundamental rights not to be subjected to inhuman and degrading treatment being violated, and is inconsistent with the right to an effective remedy guaranteed under article 13 ECHR [European convention on human rights]"

 

[TomandJerry]

If Sunak does lose the vote the bill is dead. He can’t ask parliament to consider the same bill twice in the same session, and with an election expected next year Sunak is out of time.

 

[Randy McNob]

Who's proud to be British today?

 

[beorhthelm]

If Sunak does lose the vote the bill is dead. He can’t ask parliament to consider the same bill twice in the same session, and with an election expected next year Sunak is out of time.

for this reason it probably goes through this stage. i cant see ever making the whole way though, as hinted in previous post, it would cause too many precedents for the legal system. its unfanthomable a law can state catagorically a country is safe in perpetuity. (does it or is this just what gets reported?)

 

[TomandJerry]

 

[Bodian]

? ' 'they don't have the numbers' - do they mean the Government don't have the numbers to get it through, or that the 'rebels' don't have the numbers to stop it passing??

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This government is evil (edited : because I don't want @Bozza nor Nsc to get into legal trouble)

 

[TomandJerry]

A trade union is considering legal action to halt the government’s latest Rwanda deportation plan as leaked Home Office documents show asylum seekers could delay removals for a year by pursuing their own individual claims.

The Public and Commercial Services Union (PCS), which represents Border Force guards among other civil servants, said it planned to challenge Rishi Sunak’s safety of Rwanda bill, if it passes into law, on the grounds it is unconstitutional.

 

[Lever]

Sir Starmer has the whole thing covered, next year can't come quickly enough.

Given the context of your previous political comments, I speculate that is another example of your poor skill in the use of irony. Please feel free to endorse with a thumbs up or make out an alternative case if you are willing and able...

 

[Lever]

This has been a particularly toxic and terrible manifestation of tory political governance but I am sure the more balanced Conservative MPs will also suffer at the next election because the ineptitude and mendacity of the last 13 years...

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

A Survation poll in The Times last month had this for Faversham and Mid Kent:

Faversham and Mid Kent
Winner: Con
Vote share by party

Con 41.4%
Lab 35.8%
Lib Dem 10.9%
Green 4.3%
SNP 0%
Plaid 0%

Labour set to do better than Blair’s 1997 landslide at next election, poll says

Sir Keir Starmer is on course to win more seats than Tony Blair did in his landslide victory in 1997 despite his party being riven with divisions over whether to back a ceasefire in the Israel-Hamas conflict.Labour would win the keys to Downing Street with a 212-seat majority if the general election

www.thetimes.co.uk

Tory hold due to the vote being split. Some amazing Tory losses elsewhere though if true.

And even places like Faversham can go if Lab, Lib and Gren give each other a nod and a wink in some seats. We've seen it in by elections.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

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In due course we will learn about the circumstances of the death and at that time we can make an assessment of whether you are right or not.

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

This has been a particularly toxic and terrible manifestation of tory political governance but I am sure the more balanced Conservative MPs will also suffer at the next election because the ineptitude and mendacity of the last 13 years...

Did you have any in mind?

So many were booted out at the time of passing the brexit bill. I'm not sure who is left which is recognisable as one of the tories of old

 

[Thunder Bolt]

In due course we will learn about the circumstances of the death and at that time we can make an assessment of whether you are right or not.

Ok, I am very angry and very sad, but the fact remains, the asylum seeker died in a place where he shouldn't have been in the first place.
Local fire services and health officials warned the government, the barge wasn't safe.

 

[Is it PotG?]

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Where is your link of evidence for such an allegation in this matter please?

 

[Nobby Cybergoat]

Ok, I am very angry and very sad, but the fact remains, the asylum seeker died in a place where he shouldn't have been in the first place.
Local fire services and health officials warned the government, the barge wasn't safe.

I understand your anger

I hope all these people are removed from the barge and placed somewhere more secure, probably a hotel, while an independent investigation into the circumstances and safety of the barge are very quickly conducted. Any sensible government should commit itself to following the findings of this investigation.

What's making me angry is the realisation there are some on the fringes and in various chat rooms who will have greeted this news with the comment .... "good"

 

[Eric the meek]

The Asylum Seeker Memorial Project

The Home Office does not publish statistics about deaths that take place in its accommodation for asylum seekers, despite calls to do so. We set out to gather the data, to explore why deaths were rising, and increase transparency.

www.asylumseekermemorial.co.uk

Please take a few minutes to scroll through and reflect. The lucky ones are those who have a name. Most of them don't.