[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Is it PotG?]

If I meant disorder, I’d stand by it. I certainly wouldn’t retract it because someone like you found it uncomfortable.

Now, if you wish to carry on acting like a child please take it to the bear pit, there’s nobody there but that never stopped you arguing before. Nobody what this nonsense on the main board.

Peace. Out.

I believe hoping for street anarchy is desperate, and extremely unhealthy.

Unless you need a new telly, mob rule is dangerous.

 

[A1X]

One aspect of the current contest which hasn't been mentioned is Rishi Sunak's proposal to create several "charter cities" around the UK. For those unfamiliar with what they are;

"A charter city is a type of city in which a guarantor from a developed country would create a city within a developing host country. The guarantor would administer the region, with the power to create their own laws, judiciary, and immigration policy outside of the control of the host country."

So effectively creating small enclaves of the UK where rich people get to set the laws, appoint their own judges and all sorts of other things. Which is...sub-optimal.

 

[The Clamp]

One aspect of the current contest which hasn't been mentioned is Rishi Sunak's proposal to create several "charter cities" around the UK. For those unfamiliar with what they are;

"A charter city is a type of city in which a guarantor from a developed country would create a city within a developing host country. The guarantor would administer the region, with the power to create their own laws, judiciary, and immigration policy outside of the control of the host country."

So effectively creating small enclaves of the UK where rich people get to set the laws, appoint their own judges and all sorts of other things. Which is...sub-optimal.

It’s worrying. However, it has been discussed at length quite a few pages back.

 

[The Clamp]

I think ‘Don’t believe a word’ fits pretty accurately too - and some people STILL DONT GET IT!

It’s because it doesn’t scan very well.
You’d really want something that has the “in” at the end of “Thin” and not the “Thi” at the start.

For example;

Bin Lizzy
Sin Lizzy
Twin Lizzy

Those would work (not that they describe her but you know what I mean)

“Thick Lizzy” just doesn’t scan. That’s why it has not caught on.

 

[beorhthelm]

One aspect of the current contest which hasn't been mentioned is Rishi Sunak's proposal to create several "charter cities" around the UK. For those unfamiliar with what they are;

"A charter city is a type of city in which a guarantor from a developed country would create a city within a developing host country. The guarantor would administer the region, with the power to create their own laws, judiciary, and immigration policy outside of the control of the host country."

So effectively creating small enclaves of the UK where rich people get to set the laws, appoint their own judges and all sorts of other things. Which is...sub-optimal.

as a historian, did you check your source? as far as i could tell Sunak made a pledge on supporting freeports and this got changed to charter city by others. bit like the Equalities Act review, things are being reported by social media, even regular media, that isnt actually said. Truss is also in favour of "investment zones" instead, much nice sounding. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-levelling-up-at-heart-of-her-pitch-qmwwk6v5f

 

[The Clamp]

as a historian, did you check your source? as far as i could tell Sunak made a pledge on supporting freeports and this got changed to charter city by others. bit like the Equalities Act review, things are being reported by social media, even regular media, that isnt actually said.

I’m not sure why you keep questioning this. Sunak is spearheading the Charter cities plan for the U.K.
He has been very vocal on the matter for a very long time and is working closely with free market think tanks like the Institute for Economic Affairs (IEA), the Adam Smith Institute and the Taxpayers’ Alliance (TA) to make them a reality.

As for Freeports, Rishi will be shocked when he finds out Freeports are allowed in the EU - about 80 of them are based in EU countries - and he’ll be gutted when he finds out as a member of the trading bloc, the UK had 7 of them

 

[beorhthelm]

I’m not sure why you keep questioning this. Sunak is spearheading the Charter cities plan for the U.K.
He has been very vocal on the matter for a very long time and is working closely with free market think tanks like the Institute for Economic Affairs (IEA), the Adam Smith Institute and the Taxpayers’ Alliance (TA) to make them a reality.

As for Freeports, Rishi will be shocked when he finds out Freeports are allowed in the EU - about 80 of them are based in EU countries - and he’ll be gutted when he finds out as a member of the trading bloc the UK had 7 of them

so there would be a lot of references to find right? but my google woo fails, lots of others associating him to the idea though, mostly through one of his uni lecturers it seems.

 

[The Clamp]

so there would be a lot of references to find right? but my google woo fails, lots of others associating him to the idea though, mostly through one of his uni lecturers it seems.

There was quite a few articles about it last year. I recall reading about it in The Week. There have also been a couple of radio shows where the topic came up. I heard them.

While it’s obviously wise to question Twitter etc, I think it’s fairly well established that he is actively working towards establishing Charter cities. Well, I thought it was

Very possible that he has done a Google clean so it doesn’t appear. Mind you, he doesn’t t seem to mind his other controversial ideas being available for all to see.

 

[Ooh it’s a corner]

It’s because it doesn’t scan very well.
You’d really want something that has the “in” at the end of “Thin” and not the “Thi” at the start.

For example;

Bin Lizzy
Sin Lizzy
Twin Lizzy

Those would work (not that they describe her but you know what I mean)

“Thick Lizzy” just doesn’t scan. That’s why it has not caught on.

I wasn’t clear - apologies. My comment of ‘some people still don’t get it’ was referring to the fact that there are obviously still many in UK who fail to recognize this bunch of dangerous charlatans masquerading as a government!

I was attempting to carry on the Thin Lizzy song reference that HWT was alluding to by using ‘Don’t believe a word’ as another appropriate lyric(in my mind anyway)

 

[Thunder Bolt]

so there would be a lot of references to find right? but my google woo fails, lots of others associating him to the idea though, mostly through one of his uni lecturers it seems.

A Google search gives what you ask of it, no more than that.
Yes, Charter Cities, investment zones, money laundering centres, whatever you want to call them were discussed several pages back.

Cameron did away with our Freeports in 2012.

Why do you think the Tories keep,lying about not being allowed them whilst in the EU? It’s not because they are going to bring employment and prosperity to the working class, is it?

£7billion awarded to a 2 man firm in Truro, for Net Zero, who previously had a turnover of £600K a year. Who’s friend or donor owns that?

The High Court has already ruled the £37B to Dido Harding is unlawful, but that’s ok as her husband is the Minister for corruption.

 

[The Clamp]

I wasn’t clear - apologies. My comment of ‘some people still don’t get it’ was referring to the fact that there are obviously still many in UK who fail to recognize this bunch of dangerous charlatans masquerading as a government!

I was attempting to carry on the Thin Lizzy song reference that HWT was alluding to by using ‘Don’t believe a word’ as another appropriate lyric(in my mind anyway)

Ah! I do apologise

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

One aspect of the current contest which hasn't been mentioned is Rishi Sunak's proposal to create several "charter cities" around the UK. For those unfamiliar with what they are;

"A charter city is a type of city in which a guarantor from a developed country would create a city within a developing host country. The guarantor would administer the region, with the power to create their own laws, judiciary, and immigration policy outside of the control of the host country."

So effectively creating small enclaves of the UK where rich people get to set the laws, appoint their own judges and all sorts of other things. Which is...sub-optimal.

Rotherweird!

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I wasn’t clear - apologies. My comment of ‘some people still don’t get it’ was referring to the fact that there are obviously still many in UK who fail to recognize this bunch of dangerous charlatans masquerading as a government!

I was attempting to carry on the Thin Lizzy song reference that HWT was alluding to by using ‘Don’t believe a word’ as another appropriate lyric(in my mind anyway)

Honesty is no excuse.

Call the police!

 

[Stato]

It’s because it doesn’t scan very well.
You’d really want something that has the “in” at the end of “Thin” and not the “Thi” at the start.

For example;

Bin Lizzy
Sin Lizzy
Twin Lizzy

Those would work (not that they describe her but you know what I mean)

“Thick Lizzy” just doesn’t scan. That’s why it has not caught on.

Doesn't help that Phil died nearly 40 years ago. A lot of the current generation have probably never heard of Lizzy and think that Whiskey in the Jar was by Metallica.

The band's name was actually an Irish accent wordplay joke on a Dandy cartoon character of a robot maid called 'Tin Lizzie'

It's just as archaic for the 21st century, but in my head I think of Truss as Janet Brown. She does an impression of Thatcher, you can tell who its supposed to be, but its quite poor and not at all funny.

 

[TomandJerry]

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/1...ll-lead-rishi-sunak-hustings-uk-politics-live

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[TomandJerry]

And so it begins

Former Conservative party treasurer, Lord Cruddas, has called for the leadership contest to be suspended after the delivery of ballot papers to party members was delayed following security concerns.

Cruddas, who has led a campaign for Boris Johnson’s name to be on the ballot, suggested the PM’s resignation should be rejected and that he should stay in his role until any security issues are resolved.

He called for the board to “immediately” suspend the leadership campaign and to allow party members to decide on a yes/no ballot to accept Johnson’s resignation.

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[Blue Valkyrie]

And so it begins

Former Conservative party treasurer, Lord Cruddas, has called for the leadership contest to be suspended after the delivery of ballot papers to party members was delayed following security concerns.

Cruddas, who has led a campaign for Boris Johnson’s name to be on the ballot, suggested the PM’s resignation should be rejected and that he should stay in his role until any security issues are resolved.

He called for the board to “immediately” suspend the leadership campaign and to allow party members to decide on a yes/no ballot to accept Johnson’s resignation.

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We become a Banana Republic if that happens lol.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

And so it begins

Former Conservative party treasurer, Lord Cruddas, has called for the leadership contest to be suspended after the delivery of ballot papers to party members was delayed following security concerns.

Cruddas, who has led a campaign for Boris Johnson’s name to be on the ballot, suggested the PM’s resignation should be rejected and that he should stay in his role until any security issues are resolved.

He called for the board to “immediately” suspend the leadership campaign and to allow party members to decide on a yes/no ballot to accept Johnson’s resignation.

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It’s about time the Privileges Committee dragged him in front of them, and stood him down as an MP, never mind a PM.
All the evidence of his misleading the House (lying) is in Hansard.

He should be charged, tried and hopefully in prison.

 

[nicko31]

And so it begins

Former Conservative party treasurer, Lord Cruddas, has called for the leadership contest to be suspended after the delivery of ballot papers to party members was delayed following security concerns.

Cruddas, who has led a campaign for Boris Johnson’s name to be on the ballot, suggested the PM’s resignation should be rejected and that he should stay in his role until any security issues are resolved.

He called for the board to “immediately” suspend the leadership campaign and to allow party members to decide on a yes/no ballot to accept Johnson’s resignation.

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Does seem they are changing the system so the vote cannot be changed after submission.

Maybe exclude all non-UK citizens while they are at it.

 

[The Clamp]

Democracy is being dismantled under our noses. Time for revolution.