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    ... but are being prevented from increasing their revenue by a government block on high-paying overseas students. If you compare yourself to a supermarket, it would like the government saying to Aldi that you can't take customers from Dyke Rd Avenue, the area around Preston Park and the best...
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    As mentioned earlier, state pension has been defined as a benefit since 1946 - that's in your entire lifetime :lolol:
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    There's a big gap between these though. The state pension was defined as a benefit in the National Insurance Act of 1946, it's a bit late to be objecting to that
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    I was thinking of having a cheeky tenner on Hall, as 10-1 are good odds in a two-horse raceSeeing the way that Labour is losing the Muslim vote, I wish I'd gone for it; it's really not out of the question (but would be terrible news for the opinion pollsters)
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    Yes, that's interesting: I think Khan could have been beatable but the Tories chose a dribbling halfwit who I wouldn't trust to run a school raffle. Why didn't they pick a credible candidate?
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    Yep, and if the MP gets such a suspension then his constituency can set up a recall petition asking for him to be sacked. But the point is that it's his or her constituency that does this, not parliament. I'm not saying that he shouldn't be suspended (in fact, I think he should) but there is due...
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    I disagree. MPs are representatives of the people - even the Acts relevant to Parliament, MPs and voting are known as Representation of the People Acts. If the people elect MPs they, and only they, have the right to remove them. What you're proposing is the first step towards dictatorship where...
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    Why does this keep coming up? (sigh). Governments can't sack an MP, it can sack a minister ... but Wragg's not a minister. His constituency party could deselect him but as he's not standing again, that's not really relevant. He can, of course, have the whip withdrawn but I suspect that may...
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    And now she's being called a liar by the Canadian government too. It's not a good week for her
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    There have been left wing papers in the past. The Daily Herald was set up by trade unionists in the early 20th century and was solidly Labour. It was edited by future Labour leader, George Lansbury (Angela's grandad) and was more to the left than the Daily Mirror. It gradually lost sales and...
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    Someone who talked of the benefits of immigration and wants amnesty for illegal immigrants is not on the right of the party. But you're right that he'll disavow any form of liberalism, the only political philosophy that he follows is Johnstonism
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    Johnson's main political instinct is Johnson first and then see what follows. But, insofar as he does have political beliefs, he's more on the liberal wing of the party. He wanted an amnesty for illegal immigrants when he was Mayor of London and he was very pro-EU before there was a political...
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    That wasn't my opinion: there was a survey two weeks ago looking at possible Conservative leaders (among the electorate, not members) and she was the only senior Tory with a positive rating. It was only 2% but it was lot better than Suella Braverman's minus 40.
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    Elect Penny Mordaunt as leader - the one that Labour fear and the only Tory with a positive approval rating among voters. I'm not sure she'd win but would greatly reduce the Labour majority and possible lead to a hung parliament.
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    I'm not so sure about that. Wellingborough is one of the most "Brexity" constituencies in the country and they got nowhere near winning. They'd have to boost their vote considerably to win any seats
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    Do you reckon that (in true Boris style) he had two posts ready to go: the one about Labour holding back on its commitment and the other about how Labour was going to pay for its commitment?
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    She's in an interesting position. There was a poll out this week that stated she was the only senior Tory with a positive net approval rating (it was just 2%, but that was enough). Some of her competitors for leader had an appalling rating, I think Braveman was -60% (or something). There have...
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    I'm not sure I'd agree with this. The leader debates do have an impact - look at the boost it gave Nick Clegg in 2010, there was an immediate leap in the LD showing and they scored the most seats for some time. Clegg wasn't a particularly engaging speaker, but he handled himself well in the...
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    It's not just the lack of empathy: he can't think on his feet either. He turned up today with pre-scripted answers and looked lost when Starmer departed from his expected attack. His transphobic response was appalling but anyone with real political instinct would have shied away. Cameron...
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    It's not a metaphor, it's a simile 👍
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