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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    If it were simple then we wouldn't be talking about it. Israel wants its people back , so thy have to negotiate and that's been happening but bombing the hell out of the place won't get them back and gives an excuse for Hamas to kill the ones they want to (soldiers). Israel wants retribution...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I would like to see them trying to bring peace to the area full stop. The fact they are predominantly (only) carrying Palestinian flags only continues the polarisation of the problem - us and them (Jews and Palestinians or vice versa) and all the time that is the dialogue then you will get no...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Your use of FACT CHECK is brilliant , designed to give some impression that you are right and I am wrong. even more clever when you do actually mix truth with semi truth or distortion. e.g Hamas has not had the mandate to govern since 2006 - there have been no elections since then - It got the...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    That's not a FACT CHECK that's an opinion because that's how do you view it. As I said before you don't seem to like alternative views and you try to supress them by coming up with trite comments as per highlight. The context of the current phase of this thread is not about the wider picture...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    You are entitled to your opinion. My comments were related to people attending marches not everyone full stop. The current trending news items are about marches which are about bringing peace to the Palestinians , if they were neutral marches about bringing peace to the area they would not...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    It is one of the many chants which I don't join in as it makes me cringe as does the one about paying benefits. I don't have an obsession with palace or hate them and I went through the 1970s as a teenager/young man. Maybe it is a bit of banter, but If you take that chant and sung it after a...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Luckily for you and I we are in a place to have our own opinions. On October 7th parts of the Palestinian population were out celebrating what had been done to Israel, 5%, 20% who knows but to say there is a clear distinction people the Palestinians and HAMAS is crazy. Hamas is made up of...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I use the word 'mass' not sizeable and I am wrong for not quantifying better but I can't . But what I am seeing is a movement by more and more people who really aren't considering the bigger picture but are fixated by the bombing and by freeing Palestine in a way which can only mean the...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I think there is a lot of political naivety being shown, whether people like it or not this is just another version of the 'west v the rest' being played out by proxies at a number of levels so our government and opposition parties cannot really criticise one of their main allies in the area and...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    The only issue I had with what your were saying repeatedly is that Israel should not have carried out any military response but unilaterally laid down her arms in response to an incursion of paramilitary terrorists. To me this is both irrational and idealistic and a little offensive tbh …the...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    see my recent post as well but I am with you with most of this. I disagree with you about how you can balance a military response which is effective without blowing away most of Gaza .
  12. W

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Just to clarify my position and yes I am repeating myself. I have no issue with Israel taking military action per se and indeed if I were in Israel I would probably be supporting it as many moderates are. I have supported previous actions but increasingly to a lesser extent. What I do say ...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    thanks.... certainly not an intentional double post. I have been having a couple of technical problems, desktop keyboard froze, then switched to my laptop which decided to die. Both back working for now.
  14. W

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Exact? really? that was a response to a direct post made to me about one of my previous comments why are you getting involved. You don't seem to like what I have said which is fair enough but you seem to be wanting to shut down any debate that military action might not be the best...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    And ? see my other comments
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    see my other comments
  17. W

    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    To be honest I really don't know what your argument is anymore. As regards reading 'more' I have a Politics and History degree from 50 years ago and have remained up to date with a lot but not all. You keep focussing on a proportionate response as defined by the UN but that is not...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Totally agree he is part of the problem because of his views and support for the settlement movement. Interestingly Gerry Adams was/is vilified for his role in the IRA yet he was instrumental in bringing about the ceasefire. I don't think Netanyahu is capable of that but problem is I don't...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    Totally agree he is part of the problem because of his views and support for the settlement movement. Interestingly Gerry Adams was/is vilified for his role in the IRA yet he was instrumental in bringing about the ceasefire. I don't think Netanyahu is capable of that but problem is I don't...
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    [News] Hamas/Gaza/Israel

    I know my history of the conflicts pretty well and that Israel has always sought a strong response to any attacks be it terrorist or from another country. But that has done nothing to solve problem which to be fair might be unsolvable. This was the time to show restraint , the terrorists are...
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