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And he's one of the managers I'd put up there as actually making a difference. I reckon most of them it's probably more like 95% / 5%.

I rate Klopp above Guardiola on the basis that he's had success at clubs that aren't clearly the best/richest in the league, including a lengthy stint at Mainz starting (and finishing admittedly) in whatever the German 2nd tier is called. I'd also rate Dyche significantly higher than the first...