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True - but 'The straw that breaks the camel's back' would be a very valid argument.

No semantics, no nit-picking, just that this conflict isn't a case of good versus evil - Israel and Hamas are both culpable.

Yes there are. One's trying to kill all the others (it's in their constitution) and the other has just been killing quietly for decades, expanding its illegal territories. Shit vs. shit. All the rest are victims; not protagonists.

There are victims. Tragically, whenever there is a war. They are collateral damage - not part of one side or the other. Just victims. Nothing more, nothing less. Not good guys, not bad guys. Just collateral damage, that's all. Do you seriously think that WWII was not a case of good version...

Not having that. There are innocent victims (many of whom voted for the wrong leaders, but that's not a crime). But no good guys. There are always innocent victims in any war, but they are not a 'side'.

So much deeper? No - the OP's called it about right. Both sides are in the wrong, both sides are responsible for the slaughter and both sides are worthy of condemnation. There are no good guys in this.

Don't always get all the nuances of a politician's speech, but generally it looks to me like, "Well said, Sleepy Joe."

"Uh-oh ............ it could be you, or it could be us, but there's no page here."

...........as is trying to obliterate Israel and all the Jewish people therein. There are no good guys in this war.

Well, he (Corbyn that is) was going into full Michael Foot mode as a leader of the Labour Party heading for a catastrophic election defeat.

No, they aren't (unpleasant though the chant is). Other, more malevolent chants, are available (sadly).

No, Hamas. They decide how many people are on top of the targets. The rest? - no comment. :shrug: Anyway, the sooner someone starts knocking heads together the better - trouble is both sides too stupid and stubborn to take any notice.

Isn't that for Hamas to decide? - certainly not anybody on NSC. (The answer should be zero of course, because it shouldn't happen, but while neither side out there is willing to consider meaningful peace talks ..................)

You would agree that both sides in this horrible dispute are intractable and intransigent though? Anyway, I have my view of both sides of the argument - and it isn't favourable to either side! However, I realise that others will view one side or the other differently - and let's face it, most...

Worthy issues? I don't consider demos staged by those in favour of wiping Israel off the map or obliterating all who support Hamas to be worthy, personally.

Protests against the owners of Brighton was justified - a case of good versus bad. And because the cause was just, and unified 92 normally warring tribes, it was actually successful. To compare it to the current protests - one lot of intransigent hate-fuelled protesters prostating against...

Anti-apartheid. Marching against the South African rugby tour of England caused the authorities to call off the South African cricket tour which was due to follow, leading to the sporting isolation of SA and ultimately the end of apartheid. Only played a very small part, obviously, but proud of...

These demonstrations - Israeli or Palestinian - aren't 'informing' anybody about anything. Nor are they a litmus test of public opinion, just groups of people, pro-Israeli or pro-Palestinian, expressing their hatred for the other side, and demonstrating their inability - or unwillingness - to...

Support for Israel's right to defend itself is not the same as 'unwavering support' for slaughtering as many Palestinians in Gaza as possible - which I have seen no evidence of anyone supporting. Something - and I'm sure it's not military resistance by Hamas - has stopped, or at least delayed -...

I think you'll also find that the mild disruption in London does nothing at all to alleviate the suffering in Gaza, or assist in any way to end the crisis, or indeed do anything positive at all. I also think you'll find that if it did any of these things, it would would get a lot of support from...