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A group of friends got together and and bought a banner congratulating Leverkusen at the last game. They didn't have to sign NDA's have a DBS check get voted in to do that. Why bring it up then? That we agree on.

No I don't. I was merely pointing out that the independent fan groups are there for a reason. The FAB has no purpose in its current guise. Oh and the travel voucher has been in place long before the FAB as I'm sure you well know.

And I expect they do an awful lot more for the normal fan than the current FAB like organise transport to games for example.

Make it 100% independent from the club. At the moment they are just puppets for the club.....signing an NDA.....c'mon! Stop banging on about bollocks like diversity and focus on things that actually affect the majority of fans (Sodexo's crapness, away fans in the home end, cover for the train...

So in 18 months they've bought a flag and had a shed moved.

The club have said they are paying lip service to the league by having this so I’m not sure why anyone should stand or for that matter vote. Plus anyone they don’t like they kick out. Oh and most of them sound like utter mongs from their bios. Is it possible to spoil your ballot paper?