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Fair enough, no need to apologise chap. Pretty much any vote is factored in by self-interest, which is why I just could not ever see 14+ clubs voting to reduce the PL to 18. The increasing American ownership in the PL could definitely see a creep towards more influence on other matters in...

So if you could list which of the 14+ PL clubs you think would vote in favour to send 2 of them down to the EFL ? Also factoring in the PL having less TV rights to sell.

You need 14 of the 20 clubs to vote for a change to take place. Turkeys won't be voting for Christmas any time soon.