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Yes, that is partly what I'm saying. But also that we don't have an honest discussion about what we want to achieve and the means to attempting to do so. It's always seems to be a numbers game, x more houses, y more nurses, z more police but no consideration of how that will achieve a poorly...

I don't know who this person is, but, judging by the reactions here, he does seem to have some place and purpose and it's generated a discussion. Perhaps we have too few parties that can never represent the full spectra of opinions where we have no idea of the underlying values. I'd like to hear...