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But the Labour Right simply don't believe in any of that by choice and ideology, not because they are being held back by some magical forces. If you went to a Labour selection candidate interview panel, you would not get near a shortlist if you advocated that programme. They don't want these...

Not at all - there is a clear thread of consistency, he is a liar and actually this was known before he stood for the leadership because of the way he treated people in his constituency Labour party. Five years on, the evidence is now overwhelming. So why didn't he want to tell the truth about...

How many times is this bloke going to say he has me on ignore. The function doesn't seem to be working, it seems, but I don't think it does for the perpetually enraged :laugh:

He walked out when facing homophobia from very rightwing troll Julia Hartley-Brewer. It's so telling about your politics that you would take her side in this, not his.

He's found a policy! England shirt colours :laugh:

I don't think you watched the video - be honest

That makes no sense. Owen Jones was a member when Labour moved into 20-point plus leads. No one exaggerates Owen Jones's role in public life more than his worst critics

But if you genuinely wanted to make Britain a better place, why wouldn't you want the Government of the day to copy what you believe in? Do you believe politics is just a job creation exercise for 650 people and the hangers-on they employ? If you were a skilled politician, you could then...

Yes we do. He has a political record now as an MP and party leader (and in public life earlier than that) that you can study and make very reasonable assessments about how he will behave in power

I think you are confusing the role of news journalists (yes, they should not be the story) with opinion writers - it's literally their job to make it about their opinions. He is diversifying his media output into video for the very sound reason that his job is frequently under threat at the...

Tell us a bit about this Starmer/Reeves/Streeting manifesto, anything about it. Literally everyone is dying to know, except those lobby/political journalists whose job it is to find out such things - they are just happy their mates will get power (broadcast journos by default tend to be centrists)

Interesting - but you don't ascribe this to a failure by centrism to come up with tangible policy ideas to govern? Ask anyone to say what the Labour party stands for at the moment or how it will be tangibly different to the Tories and all you will get is meaningless waffle like they'll be...

It's genuinely rare for people to disagree with Jones and come out with anything sane, so bravo. I fear you'll find that addressing the problems that Britain has will require more than agreeing with the Tories virtually all the time, but we're all going to have to go through that process so...

You can't use that line any more given the people currently in charge of Labour did everything possible to tank Labour's chances between 2015 and 2019, so that makes them Boris Johnson enablers. It's all been documented by neutral sources such as the Forde report

Your politics are rooted in deep, positive conviction then