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What nonsense. It seems there are those on the hard left who have been waiting for an excuse to pile in on Starmer. My view? I think you have gone too soon. Give him a chance to become PM and then wait till he does something to affront your hard left sensibilities before the studs-up...

And the BBC reported an hour or so ago that this ludicrous bollocks has been tossed into the bin. When the Republicans create a smear, they at least manage to bribe a prosecutor to keep it running and running. The Tories really are f***ing useless. They can't even propagate a slur for more than...

And you were musing on whether there is any difference between the failed plans of the tories and the apparently secret plans of the Labour party? Does it even warrant contemplation?

Yep. I find the argument that labour can't prove how they will fix the tory mess so.......... (so what exactly? May as well stick with the tories?) a bit strange.

This sort of thing for a start https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/shelagh-fogarty/tories-debased-parliamentary-democracy-with-lies/ https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/letters/sue-gray-boris-johnson-partygate-b2293834.html...

Why bounce it? You'll think you're right whatever situation we are in. I'm not bothered about people who aren't bothered about politics. But when I see people taking the trouble to post on a football message board to signal how little they are bothered, and suggest 'they are all the same', my...

Not according to people on the left am I 'left'. All Blair and no Corbyn, here. The answer to your question of course is we have no idea. Blair was 'Bambi' in the build up the his first win. Seems weird now. None of the trope-slinging has any meaning presently. You will simply have to be...

No. We like a florid jackass, with jokes, a roving cock, and long words used carelessly.

Come on Rishi. We need more of the same. Not these wishy washy labour types who keep coming up with new ideas. Boo. BOO!

I think I am beginning to see what you consider to be a solution, perhaps the only solution. No doubt taking your inspiration from this :wink:

You are absolutely right. "Illegal migration" is a measure of our success as a nation. As indeed are Albanian criminal gangs who have taken over the drug trade, a reflection of the massive spending power of Britain's drug takers. And let's not forget the massive increase in hospital waiting...

They will if we position some 'shoo back' boats on the fringes of our waters. And in any case, it all used to work hunky dory... (data from https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/channel-crossings-tracker) If migration watch uk is too right wing for you, these are the lefty BBC's figures:

They don't want deaths in their waters. They don't want criminals attempting to traffic people in their seaside towns. They don't want to be seen as nothing more than a nation through which foreigners pass, 'illegally'. And unless the French have decided that the best way of dealing with the UK...

But....how will he pay for that without raising taxes? ??? Whatbout another five years of the tories? Other stupid comments are also available - Potty will doubtless share them all if he hasn't done so already :thumbsup:

There is a solution to twats:

He does this to be 'ironic'. Well, he thinks he's being ironic. When I say 'thinks'..... You can guess the rest :shrug:

I bet you get an 'ironic' thumbs up from potty for that :lolol: Why does he remind me of Cartman so? ???

I salute your indefatigability.

I'd love to join in the convo, but I have potty on ignore for repeated offenses against logic, reason and honesty. And punctuation? Yes, and punctuation. Whatabout that? ???

OK and good. But they aren't going to grant all asylum claims, are they. :shrug: Considering asylum claims seems a big improvement on attempting to send everyone to Rwanda. Coupled with other measures, engaging with other countries.....why couldn't the Tories do that? Because if asylum were...