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To be briefly serious, I hope your sciatica improves (that was you wasn't it? If not, just accept the general positive vibe). I was talking to somebody at work with it recently and it sounded bloody awful. But to getting back to the real reason I'm here (that is, being fatuous and stupid) my...

Validation! :O:O:ascarf::ascarf::O:O I'm going to quit now at the summit. :lolol: Nooo, I'm in favour of STV where you still vote for specific named candidates. And it magically "approximates" to PR. As an engineer, I'm well up for magic vague approximations.

Whatever it is, it definitely won't have an apostrophe in it. It is just manifestos, incidentally. Although after checking I've got jamais vu and I'm starting to doubt manifesto is a word at all.

I think we either have a representative democracy, and leave the MPs to it, or we should have a directly elected executive. Having this weird halfway house where we elect MPs and then they subcontract the job of picking their leader to a tiny, self selected minority of the population feels like...

Who do you mean by "the parties"? Both major parties have leadership elections where their members have the final say, which led to Truss (and Corbyn on the Labour side) being elected despite never winning an election among their own MPs. It isn't a weird anomaly.

Liz Truss didn't win a single round of voting amongst Conservative MPs. In all except the final round that eliminated Penny Mordaunt, she came 3rd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/July%E2%80%93September_2022_Conservative_Party_leadership_election?wprov=sfla1

I think it should be purely the remit of the MPs to pick their own leader/Prime Minister. Many of the problems we've had over the last 9 years on both sides seem to have stemmed from both parties having leaders that most of their own MPs didn't want.

To be fair, if I'd made a cock up that big I might be tempted to shed some of the blame as well. I might go full on "the lizard people did it".

I think they meant a majority of MPs want him now, not during the election. 38% isn't a majority at all, it's a plurality. I think there's a conservative conspiracy to confuse people on this so we don't realise how messed up the voting system is. Amusingly, and apropos of nothing, my phone tried...

That's alright, they're both much more likely to turn up in my kitchen cabinet.

She'd probably put it on the wrong end.

I've managed to miss anything particularly interesting that's been dredged up from her personal life. Whether that's because nobody's bothered to look, because she's lived an almost entirely virtuous life, or because it's been completely swamped by endless stories of her dazzling incompetence...

Boring comment warning: Newton's law of gravity would probably be fine for that, unless you were planning on going via several hundred very close orbits of the Sun. It becomes inaccurate near very massive objects like stars or black holes, hence the discrepancy in predicting Mercury's orbit over...

Oh, I assumed the T stood for "Tosh". What a numpty I am :facepalm:

I can only assume that in his frustration with the political posting on the board, Bozza's decided to make the existing threads f***ing unreadable.

Yes, in 1905 the Conservatives and Unionists under Arthur Balfour resigned the government (despite a substantial majority), hoping that the Liberals would split while trying to govern allowing them to win the next election. In the election that followed, the Conservatives and Unionists were...

We're already at the point where if Truss went full Caligula and appointed a horse to the cabinet, I'd consider it an improvement.

I'm sure you'd be quite willing to bang on at length about some subjects, they just come up less :D What's impressive is, on what is notionally a football forum, how little collective knowledge of football there is :whistle:

Do you really want to think or write more about Truss?

I suspect that if you offered to pay the government your tax in dollars they'd jump at it. Of course, you'd have to buy the dollars yourself first. The whole thing is just missing the wood for the trees - a lot of perfectly rational observations with an enormous pile of wishful thinking wacked...