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My point was that somehow a discussion on whether Rayner was behaving in the correct manner to her responsible position was somehow skewed off to something totally leftfield and whataboutery.

Care to expand upon that?

I think you're looking at it from the wrong angle. Like Truss going, or a football manager. It's the total lack of credible replacements or alternatives. Nobody really wants a Labour lead, Union backed leadership. we'll all be out on strike all the time.

If you say so. Ridiculous and provocative at best.

Nowt wrong with a decent radicchio.

Let's do this again. I feel that someone honoured and privileged to be given the responsible role of an MP should not resort to potty mouthed, personal tirades.

The difficult position she was in, I felt she made the best of an impossible position. Still on her way out though.

How's that then 'squire?

Indeed. As I've said a million times, they're all as bad as each other. Self serving piggies in the trough. Your last point is fascinating. Please do, almost as if you have an agenda. For what it's worth, I am a strong believer in meritocracy. If you're the best for a post, all other points...

I dunno really, maybe I just feel that someone in a position of significant responsibility should conduct themselves in a suitable manner, and not resort to potty mouthed personal tirades. Credibility I guess.

Indeed, the severity of which must make me unsure of my ability to survive on here.

Are you suggesting that I fit into that category?

There are many MPs from modest backgrounds conducting themselves in a manner that fits their role and never feel the need to descend to cheap insults. Such positions should demand decorum in office, rather than resort to unprofessional outbursts.

Glad you mentioned the word 'trolling', should get you the attention you're after.

Thanks.

Not a wind up. The frothy mouthed looks on those two yesterday was very scary indeed. I give Starmer his due, he was relatively reserved.

Have to say the dignity, compassion and gravitas incorporated within her apology was far removed from the shouty, rabble like response from the likes of Reeves and Rayner yesterday.

Absolute genius. :facepalm:

We'd all still be living in the lap of luxury with free Wi-fi though.