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  1. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    They’ll almost certainly have a plan, but the strategy is to keep their powder dry until an election is actually called.
  2. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Labour don’t really need to write and publicise a long manifesto that only needs to say one thing: We are not the Tory party.
  3. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    The polls in the 12 months leading upto the 1992 election were much closer though. Labour's lead was somewhere between 0-5% if you took an average of pollsters, and it got closer throughout the campaign, during which you have to say John Major did superbly. Labour have led all polls since...
  4. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Cheers. Under the FTPA, we'd have been having a GE this May, I think. I'm fully aware that Sunak is entitled to hang on to the bitter end and will probably wait until late autumn and can technically call an election in mid January 2025, but what sort of person can honestly carry on with...
  5. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    I'm saving a days leave for the Friday after GE night. I intend to stay up all night watching interviews like this as various Tory arseholes lose their seats. Even JRM is looking less than certain to be an MP in the next parliament. 70% would be a fairly average turnout for a GE, but I though...
  6. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    This video serves as a reminder as to who the 25% are that will still vote Tory despite the clusterfuckery of the last 3 years. I wouldn’t get overly worried that they represent anything like a majority of the electorate. They just represent the sort of person that you might find in a...
  7. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Sadly, a lot probably will. They’ll be told that the EU is to blame and that only the conservative PM (probably Truss) can get Brexit done properly over the next 5 years.
  8. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Take the piss at your peril. The tories have an election to fight in 2 years and know that the only chance that they have or retaining a majority is by making it all about Brexit. This sort of blame-the-EU-for-everything rhetoric appeals to people that put Johnson firmly into power in 2019.
  9. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Probably would. Outside of party membership, Boris Johnson and his cult are to the Conservatives what Jeremy Corbyn and momentum were to Labour.
  10. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    It surprises me that it's as low as that, and how would they know anyway? Pre Brexit, I always noticed loads of UKIP posters and boards up in farmers' fields when I used to go cycling round the country roads of Cheshire and Derbyshire.
  11. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Because the 2019 election was won by securing the votes of angry red-faced people from provincial towns who have been given the EU as an institution to blame for whatever it was that was making them so angry. Those votes will be lost if the party is seen to be being led by someone that might...
  12. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Some numpties who posted regularly on the Covid good news thread who’d convinced themselves that the pandemic was caused by factual reporting of infections and deaths probably.
  13. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    CPS can bring charges if in public interest even if victim doesn’t - although you’d probably need the victim to be happy to give a statement unless there are witnesses. Carolyn Flack’s boyfriend didn’t want to press charges after she twatted him with a lamp for example. Another high-profile case...
  14. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Depending on the polling company, the Tories are currently polling at somewhere between 30-34%. You don’t win majorities with those numbers, even at the upper end.
  15. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    I'd have thought that Starmer getting a fine and resigning would be the last thing that the Tories (well the Johnson supporters) would want given that Johnson has refused to resign after having already received a fine himself.
  16. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    The problem she has is that she answers with the smugness and complacency of a safe-seat tory MP that won't have to defend their seat for another 2+ years - probably watched too much Question Time over past couple of years. She seems to have forgetten that she needs the people she's sneering at...
  17. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Whilst it's true that Tory members and MPs made him PM, they were only responsible for making him PM in a very weak government. The people responsible for making him PM with a majority sufficient to implement all his policies were the deluded Corbyn and Swinson for facilitating a GE, and...
  18. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    I was going to write the same. Rabid brexiteers aren't the brightest bunch and believe that Johnson has been prevented from fully implementing their unicorn version of Brexit by anti-democratic remainers and the evil EU. Brexit is all that matters to them, and Johnson will almost certainly...
  19. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Bizarrely, Johnson will be shitting it that they could be given fines. Because if they do, they’ll almost certainly resign and he’ll look an even bigger **** than already.
  20. nwgull

    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Standard scouse bird.
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