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    This chart shows that capital expenditure by water companies is higher since privatisation than it was before privatisation. Is it wrong? https://nic.org.uk/data/all-data/historic-water-datasets/#tab-historic-water-capex I'm not convinced that a bloc of 450m people (as diverse as Spain and...
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    If they wanted to generate headlines that neither the UK nor any EU system is any good, then they would have to run down the European models as well. Most people, not just the people on this board, know that European countries also have healthcare systems. Remember that it was Labour who...
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    No, I'm not saying I would move to the US model. Repeat not. I wouldn't like to be misunderstood on this - so I will repeat that I do not like the US model. The line "Surely other countries, perhaps those in the beloved EU, have healthcare systems that we could investigate?" was intended to...
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    Are there any other healthcare systems apart from the UK and the USA? It seems to be a general assumption that there are no alternatives to the NHS, the system that used to be called the "envy of the world", other than the US model. Surely other countries, perhaps those in the beloved EU, have...
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    Nothing's wrong with it. The difficulty with multiculturalism isn't that it gives people the right to live their lives as they choose, because liberal democracy does that too. It's that it separates the races rather than integrates them. You seem to think that the opposite of multiculturalism...
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    Good point. But, of course, cultural integration is well and truly frowned upon in certain "anti-racist" circles. How often do we hear about cultural appropriation as being a bad thing? Cultural integration is the opposite of multiculturalism, not a synonym.
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    How would you explain Corbyn's rhetoric about Jews being the scum of the earth? You wouldn't need to, because he didn't say it. What Braverman said was that just being a woman, or being gay, wasn't enough to justify an asylum claim. You had to be individually persecuted. As you no doubt...
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    Multiculturalism isn't about people of different backgrounds and races all mixing together, as Braverman appears to have done. Multiculturalism is about keeping different races apart. Whether it's British expats in Spain living in little English-speaking communities and never learning Spanish...
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    How much higher is the death rate under anaesthetic for AA's rather than proper anaesthetists?
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    I don't expect that Lady Hallett will make anything irrelevant, public. But I don't think she will be the only reader of those messages. Can there be a guarantee of no leaks from anyone on the enquiry?
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    The attitudes towards people who support Brexit wasn't and isn't particularly tolerant. Yes, tolerant in the sense that you allow people to talk about it and to disagree, but not tolerant in the sense of being polite and respecting their opinion. This is not directed at you personally, it's...
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    Hell to pay if anything about Ukraine, for example, is made public.
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    For one, I don't defend the government's every action; for another, if I did, it's only to provide counterpoint to the majority on here who criticise the government's every action. When someone broadly conservative posts on a board which is strongly left wing, they're bound to come across as...
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    No-one's suggesting that the enquiry won't see all the communications about the Eat Out scheme, and it will be interesting to see if it made any difference (probably didn't, since the second wave wasn't restricted to just the UK, but it will be interesting to see - in 7 years' time if the...
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    I don't think any investigation could have a wider remit. They are able to demand anything and everyone from anybody, as far as I can see. If they can demand copies of all private messages from the PM, they can demand anything. The main purpose of this enquiry ought to be to focus on what...
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    I think it's a reasonable speculation. Why do people get on a small boat in France to come to England? I stand by my belief that it's because they want to leave France and come to England. I don't think that's controversial. ;)
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    Every chance they always wanted to come to the UK. But the reason they get on those pitiful boats in France is because they want to leave France and come to England.
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    Why not go the whole hog and launch (pun intended) a campaign to keep the boats running? One of the things that really needs looking at, but keeps being glossed over, is what is it about France that makes it such a hell-hole that people want to leave so badly?
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    The point of self employment is that is saves both employer and employee quite a lot of money, especially as regards National Insurance,. It may not be all Lineker's fault, because the BBC have a record of ordering their presenters to claim self-employment rather than employment, probably...
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