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Conservatives Using National Theory Stratagem. I haven't thought of an acronym for them yet.

The weird thing is, those to the right blamed Labour for the 2008 financial crisis for not bringing in tighter financial regulations. This is what they fought the 2010 election on. Does anyone in their right mind seriously not see what is happening here? Does anyone really think the financial...

I was commenting on the analogy. The policies weren’t unpopular, even if the presentation/personnel might have been to many. An unpopular leader with unpopular policies doesn’t get over 12m votes. Regardless or winning or not, to jump from 9.3m to 12.8m votes matters and Starmer knows that. He...

Corbyn got 12.8m votes in 2017, compared to Cameron’s 11.3m in 2015 and Milliband’s 9.3m. Who knows what that result would have been with the referendum taking over British politics.

:lolol: A genuine shit show.

What kind of political party would throw in a contentious damaging referendum just to secure power for themselves? :shrug:

You mean you didn't turn into a Steptoe / Garnett hybrid? How novel. I think I missed being able to vote in '92 by about a month. I've lived in various constituencies over the years and generally voted for the best MP for that area*. *as long as they weren't a Tory.

It’s been edited by a mod now anyway and all subsequent quotes. :shrug:

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Your serious point was me and Emily loving Trumpian politics. Honestly, lets try to keep the humour out of sensible political debate.

Come on, Harry Wilson's tackle was defending you earlier, you're better than that surely!? :lolol:

Pictures of tea being poured, someone's pallour not having been coloured in, someone being called nasty, it's clearly a time for some of a certain political persuasion to get offended. These days if you say you're English, they throw you in jail. Indeed they do.

No. Picking up on the Emily Thornberry tweet as a 'politics is broke' moment with everything else that is going on is enough for me. :thumbsup:

You're very selective in the prejudices you pick up on. Almost as if there is prejudice at work.

Yep, seems you really have been put off discussing politics on NSC. :lolol:

c) perhaps the 'very sensible and intelligent woman' needs re-evaluating? Who told you that anyway, the wife? :cool:

A significant number of them would need to vote for it. 40+ Conservative MPs would need to trigger a GE at a time when it would look like they'd lose. Can't see that happening.

There is always a context. Ill health, for the good of the country, good of their party, resignations have come for a variety of reasons in UK political history. It isn't often a PM is forced out in this way. Even Thatcher was allowed to fight her own leadership contest. This is something a bit...

It must be difficult for you right now, grab the scraps where you can. :thumbsup: