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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Since they tweaked methods this isn’t the case anymore is it? 5 decades has seen a massive change in how polling works. The polls before the 2019 election nailed it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2019_United_Kingdom_general_election In 2017 it was the same...
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Is that true? Didn’t the last two exit polls nail it within a handful of seats?
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    I expect the Tories will see reform and think they need to chase the votes and ignore the fact that some people might be voting Tory while holding their nose but if they go further right then they will lose people at the other end.
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    It will be a very easy campaign for Labour if they do. “It is not taking away “their” rights it is taking away “yours”” or something like that.
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    People argue it is a deterrent so 100 will stop people coming. What people forget is that almost that many die every year in the boats so if that’s not a deterrent then is Rwanda?
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    It is simply impossible for both of these statements to be true, isn’t it? 1) he did not intentionally mislead Parliament because he did not understand the guidance he was telling everyone else about 2) he is an intelligent man who is capable of making big decisions to lead the country. If...
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Another you gov poll about whether people believe Johnson is honest. Believe it or not, the majority think he isn’t. That is majority of leave voters, tory voters too.
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    I am amazed with some of the questions that get approved. Surveys is my job and some of those that don’t get people booted out of polling are amazing. It is similar to gb news not getting endlessly published by ofcom
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    The biggest irony for all this is that brexit was obviously linked to immigration and brexit makes it harder for us to control the boats crossing and returning people with failed asylum claims (if we bothered processing them obviously because it is far better for government to shout about them...
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Here is what the less leading question from ipsos Mori makes of the immigration issue. https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2022-03/attitudes-towards-immigration-british-future-ipsos-march-2022.pdf It is much more nuanced. It includes whether had positive or negative...
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Given the love some have developed for you gov polls. Here is a poll about what the public think of whether boris knowingly misled Parliament. How on Earth can 14% think he didn’t? https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/survey-results/daily/2023/03/20/41158/1
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    This is the sort of thing I meant. But yeah leaving drinks essential.
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    So boris says when asked what his answer would have been if asked when at the podium whether leaving presentations are allowed at work he would have said that it is down to the organisation. What an absolute shyster. Imagine people defending him. Of course he would have said “unfortunately at...
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    Up to 13 voting against. If another 21 go then the PM will get it through on labour votes.
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    the real mind bender for some is that the refugees coming on boats are not “taking an illegal route” they can get here however they want. It is not illegal to do so. The illegal bit is the people charging them to do it but the actual refugees are not illegal immigrants because refugees can enter...
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    That is the power of a government constantly banging on about an issue. It is so strange they don’t shout about something they will actually improve.
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Slowly people are realising that those who shout “cancel culture” the loudest actually mean “cancel those those disagree with us and support those who agree” it is the opposite of free speech that these people bang on about. Is is just so weird that they are focussing on raising a problem they...
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Good to see so many MPs who spent so long saying the police should re investigate starmer’s curry have realised they shouldn’t waste time and now strongly condemn police wasting time on enforcing the law on politicians. I assume it is then realising their behaviour was ridiculous before right?
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    [Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

    Sounds like the Boris supporters are starting to push to get their man back into number 10. What a time to be alive.
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