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*** cough *** - "the question didn't change" - my arse !

OK - I'll bite despite not having posted on the Brexit thread for ages. The question you posed was "Should the UK join the EU Single Market ?" - when challenged on that you changed it to "What should be done to revive the British economy ?" - two entirely different questions. Now I know your...

That wasn't the question you posed though was it ? You started a thread knowing the question / subject matter would most likely cause a binfest. Personally I think anyone making a thread or post for the obvious purpose to starting said binfest should get a ban. @Frutos - please just merge with...

Pretty sure the BBC aren't correct on the two highlighted lines - or if they are the French aren't bothering. I say that as I've been to France three times this year and not been asked to prove either of these two points.

Which ports ferry, airports or others, don't do passport checks ?

Sorry - got to ask - what does the highlighted sentence actually mean ? Men go to Portugal to get the snip ?

I can only go on my own experience on Newhaven-Dieppe. I've done the crossing three times this year and more times than I count over the last 15+ years. The only change I've seen since Brexit is that my passport is stamped - the time to pass French border control hasn't increased at all. Quick...

Because looking at many of the posts it appears to have become a Brexiteer bashing thread rather than a discussion around the delays - much like the original Brexit thread.

They may be very valid points but they are still to do with Brexit.

Time for this to be merged with the Brexit thread in the Bear Pit me thinks. Becoming far too Brexit thread MK2. Guinness Boy Bry Nylon

We are talking about for tourists not business. The only change for non-business travel to France is that you get your passport stamped each way - a whole couple of seconds per passport extra. You always had your passport checked even before Brexit. At Dover it's always been both nations...

What new procedures are these then ? As far as I've experienced it's still British passport control this side and then French passport control the other. Dover have double - i.e. British and and French both sides - but that is it. I've even carried food, flowers and chemicals both ways without...

There is an answer to avoiding the delays at Dover ..... go via Newhaven ... been three times this year and not an issue at all either end. Well that's not true, coming back Border Control in Newhaven are frustratingly slow to process cars - I think they put all the simpleton employees in Newhaven.

I know you do it on purpose but you're misrepresenting the point I was making - that while in the EU we didn't have complete control over our VAT policy. Now we've left we do. It's rather pathetic that you, not for the first time, mention me to try and get me drawn back into this now tiresome...

The difference being - I don't really care that I got it wrong - NI are welcome to the border.

Has @Plooks left us then ?

You're very sensitive when it comes to someone pointing out the lies of the remain campaign .... I really can't imagine why. And FYI, my daughter has just been offered a place at Portsmouth Uni that includes the 3rd year abroad .... around 50 uni's across the world INCLUDING EU ones. So really...

Maybe YouGov might like to ask the re-join question again once it's made clear that we wouldn't rejoin under the same terms as we had before - we'd lose our rebate, we'd lose some of the opt outs we'd agreed and most importantly we'd have to join the Euro.

The value of my house has crashed as predicted .... oh, silly me, it's gone up :facepalm:

Difference being that the EU is far far more than a trading block - it's a political collective with aspirations of becoming a super state. The CPTPP is just a trading block to reduce / remove tariffs.