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I'm really sorry to hear that. I can't say I have that level of problem but the discomfort is real and it didn't used to be that way. 🥺

I sympathy with that. I used to sail through winters but now I'm almost 57 I find that I'm struggling. Perhaps I have SAD, bit I certainly am feeling the cold even if the temperature is mild by yesteryears standards.

Indeed. Sadly, for cold lovers, possibly another indication of global warming. Personally, I am always glad to feel the back of winter, when the first warning rays of the sun are felt on my back, that's a great feeling!

I don't really think that's relevant nor correct for distinct areas. And our recent weather in winter has been on the whole, very very mild. The question is worth asking, as sometimes winter would indeed be done if by winter we mean cold and icy weather and not just metrological or astronomical...

It's a reasonable question given that some years have barely registered a freezing day on the south coast in recent times.

That'll be great what with the temperature by one am being 5 degrees.

From gibbering excitement at the pub run to maudlin despair this morning. The sensible voices there must despair at all the hope-casting.

Precisely. And this sort of post usually comes with a moniker such as Summer Blizzard, Scottish Moraine or Winter '63 or something. Impossibly optimistic/unrealistic posts can often be determined by the name. They used to scare me loads in the early days of the internet, when I took up exotic...

Exactly, they are so desperate for snow they hang onto every slight chance. Ramp Ramp Ramp!

It has been warm but today is slightly under the average for November here in Eastbourne.

I must have missed the 3 inches of snow at the weekend and then snowy weather spreading to the South affecting all areas etc etc etc. Some lovely warm spring sunshine in sheltered areas though.

And long may it last! I used to love the snow and cold, but as I've grown older and more boring, I now find it too inconvenient and especially resent the cost of heating my home when it's minus 10 outside or something. Give me mild!

You said 'all of Europe'. Pretty sure we are there though?

Good!

Perhaps depends upon whether one counts Istanbul as Europe.

Yep and if astronomical winter is used, that only started on December 21.

I'm watching as well but hadn't noticed that. Bizarre.

BBC showing clear weather and 6C down to a low of 4C.

Unless you are called Trump.

Nice selection of Trachys there! I only have fortunei, wagnerianus and a takil. Have killed a relatively small martianus (which was lovely, sob). Don't want to go way off topic, but do you 'do' other exotics?